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kondorong



Gambia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  01:01:26  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message

LIST WILL FOLLOW SOON


kondorong



Gambia
4375 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  01:15:16  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
1. DONDEH NJIE CHAIRMAN IEC
2. YANKUBA KASSAMA SECRATARY OF STATE HEALTH
3. YANKUBA TOURAY SECERATARY OF STATE
4. BABA JOBE (IN JAIL) ASSISTANT SECRATARY OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT. THIS WAS HIS OFFICIAL TITLE IN 1994.
5. SNA SABALLY VICE CHAIRMAN
6. MR SAMATEH (BIRTH CERTIFICATE OFFICE)
7. AMADOU SANEH ACCOUNTANT GENERAL ASLO HUSBAND OF. HADDIJATOU SANNEH
8. BAKARY DABO SECERATRAY OF STATE FINANACE
9. SULAYMAN CEESAY
10. SEDAT JOBE SECRATARY OF STATE FOREIGN AFFAIRS

11. BABOUCARR JATTA
12 LANDING SANNEH (IN JAIL) SENIOR ARMY OFFICER 13. NYIMANSA SANNEH BOJANG SECRATARY OF STATE HEALTH
14 FATOUMATTA TAMBAJANG SECRATARY OF STATE HEALTH
15 KUMBA MARENAH SECRATARY OF STATE HEALTH/DIRECTOR 16 NATIONAL WOMEN'S BUREAU
17 WILLIE CARR PRINCIPAL
18 PA MUSTAPHA JALLOW ARCHITECT CIVIL ENGINEER CIVIL AVITION
19 MAIMUNA TAAL DIRECTOR GENERAL CIVIL AVIATION
20. SAINABOU NGUM CIVIL AVIATION
21. LAMIN KASSAMA
22. OUSMAN JAMMEH MASTER OF THE SUPREME COURT
23 OUSMAN JAMMEH WORKS PERMANENT SECRETARY
24 MUSTAPHA LEIGH DEPUTY PERMANENT SECRETARY WORKS
25 LAMIN SANNEH DIRECTOR OF TECHNICAL SERVICES WORKS
26 BABOUCARR HOUMA MANAGING DIRECTOR GPTC
27 VICTOR CARVALHO MANAGING DIRECTOR GAMBIA AIRLINE
28 BAKARY NJIE MANAGING DIRECTOR GAMTEL
29 BATCHI BALDEH AMANGING DIRECTOR NAWEC
30 MR CONTEH PRINTING
31 MR CONTEH CENTRAL BANK (IN JAIL)
32 LIE CONTEH KMC KAMC CHAIRMAN
33 CAPT BOJANG COMMISSIONER CRD
34 LAMIN KABA BAJO SECERATRY OF STATE RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS
35 EBRIMA JAGANA MANAGING DIRECTOR PORTS AUTHORITY
36 CAPTAIN ASSAN SARR GNA
37 NDURE CHAM COUP PLOTTER ALLEDGED
38 HASSAN JALLOW HIGH COUTR JUDGE NOW WITH UNITED NATIONS TRIBUNALS
39 CHEYASSIN SECKA SECERATRY OF STATE JUSTICE
40 FAFA MBYE SECERATRY OF STATE JUSTICE
41 HO. HYDARA SECERATRY OF STATE JUSTICE
42 JAMES KUJABI DIRECTOR GENERAL INTELLIGENCE
43 LAMIN MANJANG MANAGING DIRECTOR
44 LAMIN KASSAMA SECURITY MANAGER BANJUL AIRPORT. THIS GUY HAS A MORE NASTY STORY
45 KAWSU KIJERA GAMBIA AIRLINE
46 DOMINIC MENDY SECRATARY OF STATE TRADE
47 EBRIMA CEESAY SECREATRY OF STATE WORKS
48 YAYA SIRREH JALLOE SECRATARY OF STATE WORKS
49 CLAUDE JENSEN DIRECTOR HUMAN RESOURCES CIVIL AVIATON
50 VAL JENSEN
51 ASP SAINE
52 ASP KEBBEH
53 KABA TAMBAJANG CUSTOMS
54 ALIEU CEESAY CUSTOMS
55 LAMIN DIBBA CUSTOMS
56 SEEDY KINTEH CUSTOMS
57 SAINEY DARBOE CUSTOMS
58 IDA JOOF CUSTPOMS
59 SHERIFF DIBBA SPEAKER
59 MP DEM
60 ADBUL AZIZ JENG GNA
61 FATOUMATTA JALLOW AUDITOR GENERAL
62 NAI CEESAY SECERETARY OF STATE
63 COMMISSIONER JOBE
64 COMMISSIONER SUWAREH
65 KORO CEESAY SECERETARY OF STATE MISSING IN ACTION
66 SADIBOU HYDARA SECERETARY OF STATE
67 KEBBA CEESAY NIA DIRECTOR
68 Pa sallah Jagne INSPECTOR GENERAL OF OLICE
69 Magistrate Borry Touray WHO THREW THE STATES CASE AGAINST PA 70 SALLAH JAGNE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF POLICE NOW A DEFENCE ATTORNEY OF COUP PLOTTERS
70 Ousman Sabally TEACHER SANIT AUGUSTINE HIGH
71 Haddijatou Sanneh GAMBIA AIRLINE
72 Saaro darboe MANAGER HUMAN RESOURCES GAMBIA AIRLINE
73 PA SALLAH JENG ALMOST OUT MAYOR OF BANJUL IN A CRIMINAL CASE AND ON SUSPENSION
74 HASSAN SALLAH SECERETARY OF STATE AGRICULTURE
75 SANKUNG FATTY AMANAGING DIRECTOR SOCIAL SECURITY
76 MR. KEBBEH GAMTEL DIRECTOR OF TECHNICAL SERVICES
77 MR MBOOB MD PORTS LATER GAMTEL MANAGING DIRECTOR
78 MOMODOU JAGNE DIRECTOR OF TECHNICAL SERVICES GAMBIA AIRLINE
79 KEBBA KUNJO DIECTOR OF COMMERECE GAMBIA AIRLINE
80 ALASANA JAMMEH DIRECTOR OF COMMERECE GAMBIA AIRLINE
81 LAMIN JABANG MANAGING DIRECTOR GAMBIA AIRLINE
82 CHIEF ERIC TUNDE JANNEH
83 BORA MBOGE DIRECTOR GENERAL GAMBIA RADIO AND TELEVISION
84 TOMBONG SAIDY DIRECTOR GENERAL gAMBIA RADIO AND TELEVISION
85 TUMBUL DANSO DIRECTOR OF HOUSING SOCIAL SECURITY AND HOUSING FINANACE
86 BABOUCARR JALLOW DIERCTOR NATIONAL RECORDS SERVICES
87 KALIFA TOURAY DEPUY PERMANANET SECRETARY
88 SOMPO CEESAY PERAMENET SECERATARY TOURISM
89 INSPECTOR GENERAL OF POLICE SANKUNG BADGIE
90 BLAISE JAGNE SECERATARY OF STATE
91 EBRIMA BOJANG
92 BLAISE JAGNE SECERATARY OF STATE FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS
93 EBRIMA BOJANG DIRECTOR OF AIRPORT OPERATIONS
94 PACHAH SOS HEALTH FOR LESS THAN 72 HOURS. HE HOLDS THE RECORD SO FAR
95 DOT FAAL MISSING IN ACTION
96 SADIBOU HYDARA SECERETARY OF STATE DEAD
97 EBRIMA KAMBI IST KMC CHAIRMAN SUCCEEDED BY LIE CONTEH
98 JAMES BAHOUM
99 FATOU SEY MANAGING DIRECTOR GAMBIA AIRLINES
100 abu denton ACCOUNTANT GENERAL
101 Commissioner abdou fm badgie
102 SAMBA FAAL SECERETARY OF STATE
103 RAMZIA DIAB National assembly memeber
104 MUSA DIBBA NIA
105 DABA MARENA ON THE RUN NIA DIRECTOR GENERAL
106 LT. EBOU LOW
107 LT. ALIEU CEESAY
108 WARRANT OFFICER ALPHA BAH
109 STAFF SGT. MANLAFI CORR
110 JUNKING BAYO CENTRAL BANK
111 GARIEL ROBERTS IEC CHAIRMAN ALSO FIRED JUST BEFORE BYE ELECTIONS IN AUGUST 2005. DONDEH IS ALSO FOLLOWING A SIMILAR PATTERN
112 EBOU GAYE PRINCIPAL ASSISATANT SECRETARY -FINANACE(REINSTATED)
113 BUBA BALDEH
114 BUBA SAHO NIA DIRECTOR
115 MARGARET KEITA ACCOUNTAN GENERAL
116 JAMES ABRAHAM IEC
117 MOMODOU NJIE IEC DISMISSED JUST BEFORE THE BYE-ELECTIONS IN JULY 2005
118 AMADOU SCATTRED JANNEH SOS COMMUNICATIONS
119 CHIEF FALAI BALDEH

WESTERN DIVISION
120 LAMIN DARBOE GUNJUR[KOMBO]
121 AJEY JANNEH GUNJUR[KOMBO]
122 ERIC T.JANNEH BANJULINDING[KOMBO]
123 BAKARY SANYANG FARABA[KOMBO]
124 JUNG NFANSU KONTE FARABA[KOMBO] NOW MP
125 M.L.JOBERTEH SIBANOR[FONI]
126 EBOU COLLEY BONDALI[FONI]
127 ALH....SISAY FONI
128 ...BOJANG OF DOBONG BWIAM[FONI]
129 M.L.NYASSI OF BWIAM[FONI]
130 L.JARJU KANFENDA[FONI]I THINK HE'S NOW REINSTATED

LOWER RIVER DIVISION
131 ...DARBOE OF DUMBUTO[KIANG]
132 BAKARY SANYANG OF KWENELA[KIANG]
133 DEMBA SANYANG OF KWENELA[KIANG]
134 SHERIFF N.SANNEH OF JENERI[KIANG]
135 BUWA KINTEH OF PAKALINDING[JARRA]

CENTRAL RIVER DIVISION
136 NGAINE BAH OF SAMBANG[NIAMINA]
137 ALH...BAH OF CHANADO[NIAMINA]
138 ALH....FATTY OF DANKUNKU[NIAMINA]
139 ..MBOGE OF DANKUNKU[NIAMINA]
140 DEMBA JANGE OF JARRENG[NIAMINA]
141 MOMODOU.L.BALDEH OF SANKULEH KUNDA[FULLADU]I THINK NOW REINSTATED
142 FALLAI BALDEH OF FULLADU
143 ...BALDEH OF FULLADU
144 KEBBA FANATA KOMA OF MANNA [SAMI]

UPPER RIVER DIVISION
145 MODIBO NJIE OF BASSE[FULLADU]
146 M.L KRUBALLY OF KOBAKUNDA BASSE[FULLADU]
147 K.SANYANG OF FATOTO[KANTRA]
148 OMAR BATURU SISAY OF NJAU[SALOUM]
149 B.TOURAY OF SALOUM

NORTH BANK DIVISION
150 KEBBA JAMMEH OF FARRAFENNI[BADIBU]
151 K.SINGATEH OF SAABA [BADIBU]
152 GEORGE SONKO OF ESSAU[NUIMI]

153 NJOGU CHAM DIRECTOR GENERAL CIVIL AVIATION
154 OMAR JALLOW SECRETARY OF STATE
155 SAJO TOURAY SECRETARY OF STATE
156 KITI JABANG SECRETARY OF STATE
157 SAIKOU SABALLY SECRETARY OF STATE
158 YAYA CEESAY SECRETARY OF STATE
159 LANDING JALLOW SOMKO SECRETARY OF STATE

160 AMINA FAAL SONKO SECRETARY OF STATE
161 HAWA CEESAY SABALLY SECRETARY OF STATE
162 SAMBA DIRECTROE GENERAL INTELIGENCE
163 JOHN ALFRED GOMEZ ALKALO OF TAWUTO VILAGE
134 ANDREW SILVA MANAGING DIRECTROR SOCIAL SECURITY
165 BAMI JAGNE FINANCE NOT VERY SURE
166 MORO SAMBA BOJANG ALKALO
167 KEBBA TOURAY ALKALO
168 MC CHAM SECRETARY OF STATE
169 MANLAFI JARJU SECRATARY OF STATE
170 BADARA JOOF PERMANENT SECRATARY LOCAL GOVERNMENT
171 MR. SANAYANG DEPUTY PERMANANET SECRETARY (TECHNICAL)LOCAL GOVERNMENET
172 ESSA KNAH PERMANENT SECRATARY
173 IMAM FATTY TALLINDING MOSQUE IEC
175 ROUGIE THOMAS SOLICITOR GENERAL
176 BISHOP TELEWA JOHNSON IEC CHAIRMAN
177 OMAR SEY SECRATARY OF STATE
178 TOMBONG CEESAY CHIEF
179 NFAMARA BARBOE GAMTEL
180 KADDY CEESAY GAMBIA AIRLINE
181 EK SARR COMMISSIONER WESTERN DIVICION
182 FODAY BARRY NIA
183 SARIANG JOBARTEH DEPUTY PERMANENT SECRATARY
184 SEARGENT MENEDY MISSING IN ACTION
185 ABDOULIE KUJABI
186 ADAMA DEEN PERMANENET SECRETARY
187 TAMSIRR JASSEH DIRECTOR IMMIGRATION
188 KAWSU GIBBA NATIONAL ASSEMBLY FONI
189 ..... BARROW GNA
190 ALMAMO MANNEH GNA MISSING IN ACTION
191 LALO JAITEH PRESIDENTIAL BODY GUARD
192 13 BADGIE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF POLICE
193 PAKAYA FOFANA
194 BABUNG FATTY
195 NDOW NJIE ARMY COMMANDER
196 EBOU NDURE
197 BOBB CHIEF OF PROTOCOL
198 GPTC
199 GPTC
200 GPTC
201 GPTC
202 GPTC
203 GPTC
204 GPTC
205 GPTC
206 GPTC
207 GPTC
208 GPTC
209 GPTC
210 GPTC
211 GPTC
212 GPTC
213 GPTC
214 GPTC
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216 GPTC
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220 GPTC
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223 GPTC
224 GPTC
225 GPTC
226 GPTC
227 GPTC
228 GPTC
229 GPTC
230 GPTC
231 GPTC
232 GPTC
233 GPTC
234 GPTC
235 GPTC
236 GPTC
237 GPTC
238 GPTC
239 GPTC
240 GPTC
241 GPTC
242 GPTC
243 GPTC
244 GPTC
245 GPTC
246 GPTC
247 GPTC
248 GPTC
249 GPTC
250 GPTC
251 GPTC
252 GPTC
253 GPTC
254 GPTC
255 GPTC
256 GPTC
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258 GPTC
259 GPTC
260 GPTC
261 GPTC
262 GPTC
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264 GPTC
265 GPTC
266 GPTC
267 GPTC
268 GPTC
269 GPTC
270 GPTC
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272 GPTC
273 GPTC
274 GPTC
275 GPTC
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277 GPTC
278 GPTC
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280 GPTC
281 GPTC
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283 GPTC
284 GPTC
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291 GPTC
292 GPTC
293 GPTC
294 GPTC
295 GPTC
296 GPTC
297 GPTC
298 GPTC
299 GPTC
300 GPTC
300 BANJUL SHIP YARD
301 BANJUL SHIP YARD
302 BANJUL SHIP YARD
303 BANJUL SHIP YARD
304 BANJUL SHIP YARD
305 BANJUL SHIP YARD
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324 BANJUL SHIP YARD
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328 BANJUL SHIP YARD
329 BANJUL SHIP YARD
330 BANJUL SHIP YARD
331 BANJUL SHIP YARD
332 BANJUL SHIP YARD
333 BANJUL SHIP YARD
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335 BANJUL SHIP YARD
336 BANJUL SHIP YARD
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340 BANJUL SHIP YARD
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342 BANJUL SHIP YARD
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344 BANJUL SHIP YARD
345 BANJUL SHIP YARD
346 BANJUL SHIP YARD
347 BANJUL SHIP YARD
348 BANJUL SHIP YARD
349 BANJUL SHIP YARD
350 BANJUL SHIP YARD
351 PETER GOMEZ GAMBIA RADIO AND TELEVISION FORMERLY WORKING FOR RADIO DEUTCHE welleh in Colon Germany
325 Ali Ceesay Court House
353 Musa Manneh Natural Resources
354 Mr. Coker insurance
355 Binneh Minteh Army
356 Ebou Jallow Army
357 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
358 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
359 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
360 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
361 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
362 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
363 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
364 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
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373 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
374 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
375 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
376 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
377 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
378 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
379 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
380 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
381 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
382 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
383 GAMBIA AIRWAYS
384 Kalifa Bajinka "on the run"
385 OC Abdoulie Colley Sibanor
386 Abdoulie Jobe NAWEC MD
387 Tijan Bahoum, NAWEC Director
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Edited by - kondorong on 30 Aug 2006 18:45:47
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LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
1295 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  01:50:41  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
THIS is yaya for you,TODAY you IN TOMORROW YOU OUT.

There is no god but Allah
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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  17:43:33  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
Kon,
Thanks so much for that great try.I know someone needs a cyber brain to be able to remember all those hired and fired since Jammeh unless you specialised on one department alone.

I also wamt to reiterate that Sedat Jobe I think resigned b4 he was fired.Dot Faal was also said to have died in action.

However,you are a star and I want to help by adding a few chiefs I can remember to your list:

Western Division
lamin Darboe Gunjur[kombo]
Ajey Janneh Gunjur[kombo]
Eric T.Janneh Banjulinding[kombo]
Bakary Sanyang Faraba[kombo]
Jung Nfansu konte faraba[kombo] now mp
M.L.Joberteh Sibanor[foni]
Ebou Colley Bondali[foni]
Alh....Sisay foni
...Bojang of Dobong Bwiam[foni]
M.L.Nyassi of Bwiam[foni]
L.Jarju Kanfenda[foni]i think he's now reinstated

Lower River Division
...Darboe of Dumbuto[kiang]
Bakary sanyang of kwenela[kiang]
Demba Sanyang of kwenela[kiang]
Sheriff N.Sanneh of Jeneri[Kiang]
Buwa kinteh of Pakalinding[Jarra]

Central River Division
Ngaine Bah of Sambang[Niamina]
Alh...Bah of chanado[Niamina]
Alh....Fatty of Dankunku[Niamina]
..Mboge of Dankunku[Niamina]
Demba Jange of Jarreng[Niamina]
Momodou.L.Baldeh of Sankuleh Kunda[Fulladu]i think now reinstated
Fallai Baldeh of Fulladu
...Baldeh of Fulladu
kebba fanata koma of manna [Sami]
Omar Baturu Sisay of Njau[Saloum]
Babucar Touray[Saloum] (I just want to say here that one of these Saloum Chiefs was fired while on his hospital bed at the RVTH very sick).

Upper River Division
Modibo Njie of Basse[Fulladu]
M.L Krubally of kobakunda Basse[fulladu]
K.Sanyang of fatoto[kantra]


North Bank Division
Kebba Jammeh of Farrafenni[Badibu]
K.Singateh of Saaba [Badibu]
George Sonko of Essau[Nuimi]

There are ofcause more and more names amongst hired and fired chiefs.Not ofcause to mention Village Heads.

I don't want to try on hired/fired ministers and educated civil servants.As Jammeh himself said some times back (on coate)

"I have fired and fired until I can't fire anymore"I think I have to find annother alternative"[meaning he had sacked until there is barely no more to sack]

On the Chiefs,I think they are the real danger for they are no molitary but have power to send people to jail.They deal directly with the people on the ground extending the terror from the capital to the people.

peace
Janyanfara

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kondorong



Gambia
4375 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  17:48:07  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
i am adding all casualties of the governmenet whetter they died, fired or resigned under pressure. I was at the foreign affairs ministry when Sedat tendered his resignation. he was shouting at the office messenger for not taking the letter to statehouse. Infact party supporters were mobilised to make him change his mind and that was why the leter was not delivered. he did not resign on his own will so he qulaifies as being pushed which is a civilised form of dismissal.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3083 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  17:48:35  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
so the chief isnot chosen by the people or by hereditary ?
he is put in place by who?

I thought it was a job for life and then the villagers decided who would be next or it was inherited by a brother or son.

Oh dear, that explains the problems in Kolior. The new chief is a government man and the people are for the opposition.

The role of chief has been made political. Has that always been the case?

I still have ALOT to learn.
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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  18:01:00  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
You do bev,

Africa keep changing every second so one must keep a constant touch to know whether next morning you are getting up at five instead of normal seven.
Yes now the government choose chiefs and village heads.No more inheritance.Even you could one day become Alkalo of Kolior if you naturalised and settle there.

peace
Janyanfara
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kondorong



Gambia
4375 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  18:09:00  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
JAYANG

I HAVE ADDED YOUR LIST TO THE POSTING. WE WILL MAKE ONE LONG LIST. THERE ARETALEST SOME ONE HUNDRED MORE NAMES ATLEST ON MY ESTIMATE
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3083 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  18:18:31  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
LOL If I were the chief I would introduce polyandry!!!

Seriously I would make education compulsory, but free,from the age of 4 to 11. Plus school lunch would be free. The village would have to find a way of providing that.
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1274 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  18:19:02  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

JAYANG

I HAVE ADDED YOUR LIST TO THE POSTING. WE WILL MAKE ONE LONG LIST. THERE ARETALEST SOME ONE HUNDRED MORE NAMES ATLEST ON MY ESTIMATE


Indeed the list is long. I have fews questions for you:

1. All those on the list were they wrongfully dismissed?
2. If you were a head of dept not a head of state , what would you do to staff who break rules and regulations?

3. Most of those guys listed especially soldiers have records of human rights abuse. So beause they have fallen out with Jammeh, they are now not villains but heros?

4. Is it correct to have ministers serving for life?

5. Can't Gambians have the honour to decline offers of appointment from jammeh if they know they would sooner or later be fired?

Thanks

madiss
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kondorong



Gambia
4375 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  18:36:01  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
WELL I WILL COME TO YOUR AID SOON. I AM NOT SHOWING WHO IS GUILTY OR RIGHT. I AM JUST PUBLISHING NAMES OF CASUALTIES SINCE 1994. AS TO WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT IS FOR THE COMPETENT AUTHORITIES TO EXPALIN. I AM NOT THEIR EMPLOYERS NOR DO I WISH TO BE. BUT IT RAISES EYE BROWS IF ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE INCOMPETENT OR HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BREAK THE LAW. THEN GAMBIA HAS A SERIOUS PROBLEM AND JUNKUNG MUST BE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB TRYING TO WEED OUT THE BAD ELEMENTS. IN THAT CASE I CONGRATULATE HIM FOR A JOB WELL DONE. GAMBIA IS THE FIRST PRIORITY ABOVE EVERY THING ELSE.

HOWEVER, IT SHOWS ALSO THAT THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS HAS A LOT OF FLAWS. HOW ARE PEOPLE SELECTED, PREPARED FOR OFFICE. MAY BE HE NEEDS TO REVIEW HIS HIRING POLICIES AND SUBJECT WOULD BE CANDIDATES TO SERIOUS SCRUTINY BEFORE TAKING ON VERY CHALLENGIN POSITIONS. IF RECRUITMENT IS TAKEN TO BE A HIT AND MISS AFFAIR THIS IS WHAT YOU GET. THEN AGAIN I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE GUILTY OR INNOCENT. THAT IS NOT FOR ME. IT IS FOR THEIR BOSSES TO ASCERTAIN.

HEY DNT SHOOT THE MESSENGER. I AM JUST RELAYING THE SCENARIO. A SIMPLE SEARCH ON GAMBIAN NEWS PARES ON THE NET WILL YIELD MANY NAMES. THIS IS JUST A FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
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kondorong



Gambia
4375 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  18:47:32  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MADIBA

quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

JAYANG

I HAVE ADDED YOUR LIST TO THE POSTING. WE WILL MAKE ONE LONG LIST. THERE ARETALEST SOME ONE HUNDRED MORE NAMES ATLEST ON MY ESTIMATE


Indeed the list is long. I have fews questions for you:

1. All those on the list were they wrongfully dismissed?
2. If you were a head of dept not a head of state , what would you do to staff who break rules and regulations?

3. Most of those guys listed especially soldiers have records of human rights abuse. So beause they have fallen out with Jammeh, they are now not villains but heros?

4. Is it correct to have ministers serving for life?

5. Can't Gambians have the honour to decline offers of appointment from jammeh if they know they would sooner or later be fired?

Thanks



There is a very famous management principle that if no one seems to meet your criteria, it is time to review your self.

I do not belive in under performers. People perform based on who manages them and the environment in which they find themselves. In many cases underperforming employees tend to work for poorly challenged supervisors. WE ARE WHO MANAGES US. THEN AGAIN, I AM OT SAYING THAT THESE PEOPLE'S SUPERVISORS ARE UNCHALLANGED. REMEBER, THESE PEOPLE AE THE CRREAM OF GAMBIAN SOCIETY. EVEY ONE HERE IS ABOVE MIDDLE MANAGEMENT.

1.There is a problem of what is called INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY VERY CRUICIAL TO SUSTAINABILTY. I DONT HAVE TIME TO DILATE FURTHER
2.MORALS ARE AFFETCTED
3.PERFORMANCE CRITERIA FLIES THROUGH THE WINDOW
4. MISTAKES BECOME VERY COMMON BECAUSE OF UNCLEAR STANDARDS
5. INERTIA AND INACTION RULES
6. LAISSAIRE FAIRE AND SYCOPHANCY BECOMES THE MEANS OF SURVIVAL
7.CREATIVITY IS DEAD


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njucks

Gambia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  18:58:33  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
Kondorong , Janyafara & Co

i think freedom of choice is very important. however i would like to seek your view on the evolution of the democratic process in The Gambia solely from an academic angle.

in our Old constitution the influence was from Britain. for example to be a member of the Cabinet you had to be an MP (elected) in the first place. hence the pool of minister is lows/restricted but an MP can't be sack from his seat. this was the case in the UK between Robin Cook and Tony Blair. Cook wasnt happy with the War in Iraq so he resigned. Even if he was sacked from the Cabinet he could still say/question the government in Parliament.

in Our New Constitution, members of the Cabinet CANNOT be MPs. they are selected from Industry or Public Service or retired people. this is similar to the US system. it offers more choice.

both system have advantages and disadvantages? but which do you think is more democratic and superior? this is purely an academic question.
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kondorong



Gambia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  19:11:04  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I WILL TRY TO DO SOME JUSTICE TO YOUR QUESTION. BOTH SYSTEMS HAVE ADVANTAGES. HOWEVER, MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS NOT THE SECRATARY OF STATES BEING APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT BUT FOR THE INDEPENDENEC OF THE LEGISLATURE TO BE ENTRENCHED IN THE CONSTITUTION.

CURRENTLY, THE WAY THAT THE PRESIDENT GOES AROUND THIS, IS THE LAW WHICH STATES THAT ONCE YOU CEASE TO BE A MEMEBR OF A PARTY THAT ELECTED YOU INTO OFFICE, YOU [POSITION BECOMES VACANT. IN THIS WAY, APARC MEMEBERS OF PARLIAMENT ARE NOT FREE TO CHALLENGE LEGISLATION BROUGHT BEFORE THEM. IF THEY DO, THEY CAN BE REMOVED FROM THEIR PARTY WHICH THEN LEADS TO A BYE-ELECTIONS WHICH THEY WILL LOOSE.

AS AN MP YOU MUST BE ALLOWED TO SERVE THE REMAINEDR OF YOUR TERM AND NOT BE REQUIRED TO LEAVE OFFICE. THIS MAY NOT BE PALATABLE TO SOME, BUT ATLEAST HELPS SOME INDEPENDENCE FROM THE EXECUTIVE ROLES. NOW, THE PRESIDENT CAN SUSPEND PARLIAMEN INDEFINITELY AND MPS HAVE VOTED IT INTO LAW. INEFFECT, THE LEGISLATURE IS NON EXISTENT AND SHOULD BE BANNED BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING SALAIRIES FOR NOTHNG.

HOW CAN THE PRESIDENT DISSOLVE PARLIAMENT INDEINITELY WITHOUT CAUSE. DURING SUCH PERIODS, WHO LEGISLATES, INFACT IF THE PRESIDENT WERE TO BE INCAPACITATED, DURING SUCH PERIODS, THE VIVE PRESIDENT TAKES OVER, BUT THE VP WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE INDEFINITE SUSPENSION LEADING TO A DEFACTO ONE PARTY STATE.

IN ADDITION, GAMBIA IS TREATY TO INTERNATIONAL PROTOCOLS LIKE ECOWAS PARLIAMENT AND TREATIES WHICH REQUIRE RATIFICATIONS FROM THE ASSEMBLY BEFORE THEY CAN TAKE EFFECT IN THE GAMBIA. WITHOUT PARLIAMENT, NO TREATY WILL BECOME EFFCETIVE. TREATIES ARE SIGNED FOR BY GOVERNMENETS BUT RATIFIED BY ASSEMBLIES BEFOER THEY CAN BE LAW. THERE ARE FAR BIGGER IMPLICATIONS. UNFORTUNATELY I AM NOT A LAW STUDENT BUT A HISTORY FANATICS. MAY BE JAYANG CAN HELP BETTER

Edited by - kondorong on 18 Jul 2006 19:15:10
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LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  19:41:30  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
WELDONE KONDONRONG and JANYANFARA keep on with the long list.Madiba Jammeh your brother is doing a good job.

There is no god but Allah
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  19:42:58  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

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Originally posted by MADIBA

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Originally posted by kondorong

JAYANG

I HAVE ADDED YOUR LIST TO THE POSTING. WE WILL MAKE ONE LONG LIST. THERE ARETALEST SOME ONE HUNDRED MORE NAMES ATLEST ON MY ESTIMATE


Indeed the list is long. I have fews questions for you:

1. All those on the list were they wrongfully dismissed?
2. If you were a head of dept not a head of state , what would you do to staff who break rules and regulations?

3. Most of those guys listed especially soldiers have records of human rights abuse. So beause they have fallen out with Jammeh, they are now not villains but heros?

4. Is it correct to have ministers serving for life?

5. Can't Gambians have the honour to decline offers of appointment from jammeh if they know they would sooner or later be fired?

Thanks



There is a very famous management principle that if no one seems to meet your criteria, it is time to review your self.

I do not belive in under performers. People perform based on who manages them and the environment in which they find themselves. In many cases underperforming employees tend to work for poorly challenged supervisors. WE ARE WHO MANAGES US. THEN AGAIN, I AM OT SAYING THAT THESE PEOPLE'S SUPERVISORS ARE UNCHALLANGED. REMEBER, THESE PEOPLE AE THE CRREAM OF GAMBIAN SOCIETY. EVEY ONE HERE IS ABOVE MIDDLE MANAGEMENT.

1.There is a problem of what is called INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY VERY CRUICIAL TO SUSTAINABILTY. I DONT HAVE TIME TO DILATE FURTHER
2.MORALS ARE AFFETCTED
3.PERFORMANCE CRITERIA FLIES THROUGH THE WINDOW
4. MISTAKES BECOME VERY COMMON BECAUSE OF UNCLEAR STANDARDS
5. INERTIA AND INACTION RULES
6. LAISSAIRE FAIRE AND SYCOPHANCY BECOMES THE MEANS OF SURVIVAL
7.CREATIVITY IS DEAD





Kondorong, The Gambia belongs to us Gambians we make it what it is today. Itís our collective responsibility to ensure that the best happens to our country. I have worked in The Gambia in both Central Government and Private sector for about 15years.

During these years that I have been a civil servant I have come to see these types of civil servants:
1. Experienced but untrained worker
2. Trained and Inexperience worker
3. Trained and Experienced worker
4. The political appointee
5. The family appointee

In the first group are people who have been hardworking for many years with little or no promotions because they were not connected. Meaning that they have not got people/family/friends who can make things like overseas training happen. Overseas training happen because there was no University for over 400yrs of British rule + 30years of PPP rule. So the places available for overseas awards as they were fondly called were very scares. So one must be connected in order to benefit from such high profile training. So this group despite their hardwork were left to stagnate in their positions and young in-experience graduates are placed on top of them. That consequently bore grudges. The state apparatus started going down. Injustices metted out to this group led to laissez-faire attitude. People coming to work late and going home early. People stealing from the meagre resources such as stationery. So when the soldiers came in 1994 many amongst this group were rejuvenated. A bulk of them then joined the 22 JULY MOVEMENT. The mistake this group did were to settle old scores with their former bosses. Instead of concentrating on helping the new powers that be to forge ahead they were bent on mudslinging. I will stop here on this particular for now.

In the second group a few continued to work for government but they were not motivated they too started losing faith. Some joined the private sector others travelled overseas in search of greener pastures.

The third group were very interesting. These were the elites. The early PhD holders, double Masters holders from prestigious university in the UK, US, Australia, New Zealand, Ghana, Nigeria . They were very intelligent. They too started joining vous to get their promotions and appointments through. Some even undermined their bosses such as Ministers. Some would even restructure depts for no good reason thus taking the country many steps backwards. Some few were neutral. When 1994 came the neutral ones were maintained and the rest went into self-imposed exiles or crept in back to work for the soldiers. Those that came back quickly fell out with the soldiers; some for the principles they believed in , some because of sticky fingers. Some decided to stay put and their families advised them to run their own business and shunned all offers fro the soldiers. Here too I will stop for now.

The fourth group came in both small and big ways. These guys only did things for government of the day irrespective of the dire consequents that awaited the country. They used state resources for party affairs. This affected their general output at work. Some of them were left stranded in wake of the coup díetat 1994. Some cunningly turned coat there and then and marched along with the new order.

The last group family had similar traits with the fourth. These people some worked hard to build brilliant careers irrespective of political ties. The others went along with those who brought them into the system for better or for worse.



The security forces were also not totally immune to the above types of connexions.

So my dear Kons lets find out the deeds of these individuals before they were hired, when they were in active duties and after they were fired.

I am of the view that some deserved what they got.


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