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sab Posted - 10 Jun 2012 : 15:56:58
British citizens who marry foreigners will have to earn at least £20,000 a year if they want to set up their family home in the UK under a new immigration clampdown.

The planned changes mean lower-paid Britons would be forced to emigrate if they wanted to live with a loved one from overseas.

And if the foreign-born spouse had children, their British partner would have to earn £30,000 or more, depending on how many


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2156993/New-law-demands-20-000-salary-marry-foreigner.html
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toubab1020 Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 02:21:14
OK it is you ! . Who can blame people from other lands coming to the UK (that's where we are talking about in this topic) where they will have a better chance of living their lives and the lives of their families to its utmost potential than in the country where they were born ?
Very very difficult to make judgements and arrive at a fair conclusion that suits everyone.
Sister Omega Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 01:07:00
Hi Toubab affirmative it's me. How are you doing Toubab?

I think UK immigration should be more imaginative by extending the time limit on leave to remain and citizenship. With a 10 year gap. The numbers of people returning home would increase and act as a deterrent for others to follow steaming the tide of illegal migration. That is a double edge sword on both side of the borders. In line with this fair trade needs to promoted encouraging more Migrants to stay at home to be more productive, eventually things will level out themselves.
toubab1020 Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 00:24:33
Is that really you Sister O ? I am confused now,how can one argue against such a clear and common sense posting.?

Sister Omega Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 00:09:56
Marriage is now the only guarantee for most Non EU and EEA Nationals to get through immigration and the system is extensively abused. Why should Foreign nationals automatically receive state benefits when they haven't contributed into the system. Also if the rule was to really make a difference then the UK government should only give definite leave to remain for spouses after 5 year if they entered the country on a Spousal Visa. Safeguards need to be put into place for UK Citizen who are often victims of deception for their Spouses to gain entry into the UK. In that time The non UK citizen should have no recourse to public Funds. But should be able to work and pay into the system before they can draw anything out. Also they should also extend British Citizenship after a 10 year stay in the country. That would give the authorities enough time to weed out bogus marriages, and deport the Spouse if the marriage breaks down. After all that was the justification for them to enter. If they are divorced in that time then they should be deported.

In addition to that another leaphole is homosexual discrimination many people pretend to be Homosexual fleeing persecution to get into the country. Deseparate people will try any angle to get what they want. The question is why should other people have to pay for it. The system has been abused, so it isn't really any wonder the UK Authorities are clamping down on it. Immigration also blatantly overlook the fact that people of all Nationalities go on holiday or Business trips etc. If they have the means to visit the UK and are genuinely staying the country up to six. Then they shouldn't be restricted access to the UK not all migrants want stay there.

toubab1020 Posted - 06 Jul 2012 : 18:36:32
I have no doubt that you are right Sab BUT as with all courts they take a great deal of time to do anything and whatever the EU court decides bear in mind that anything that gets before it has to have exhausted all the legal avenues within the EU country that the request comes from,so could be a very long time indeed,and those that are affected will have a very long wait,with loads and loads of money made by the lawyers out of the legal stuff.

sab Posted - 06 Jul 2012 : 15:00:08


I am sure this new immigration law that applies from Monday 9th July 2012 will eventually be decided by the European Court of Human Rights.


http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-updates/?area=Residency



toubab1020 Posted - 26 Jun 2012 : 22:43:02

Which did Dave choose ?

quote:
Originally posted by kisley

ahh the usual "undeserving poor" rhetoric.

As we all know unemployment is a choice and poverty is a life style.

Ever had to choose between heat and food, Dave?

Thought not.


kisley Posted - 26 Jun 2012 : 22:00:05
ahh the usual "undeserving poor" rhetoric.

As we all know unemployment is a choice and poverty is a life style.

Ever had to choose between heat and food, Dave?

Thought not.
toubab1020 Posted - 25 Jun 2012 : 19:18:10
The UK elections are not scheduled for some time,but there are those who think that this topic will win them votes and are taking advantage of floating ideas before the serious campaigning begins in earnest, read Cameron's speech backing workers and his thoughts on the perceived "benefits culture" that has become inbred in some people living in the UK.

http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/welfare-speech/


kobo Posted - 25 Jun 2012 : 17:06:46
THE DAILY NEWS;

toubab1020 Posted - 15 Jun 2012 : 17:24:10
Snippet:
"Chief inspector to the UKBA, John Vine, said many visas were incorrectly rejected after employees "disregarded or misinterpreted" evidence.
Some applicants were being refused for failing to provide information that had not been originally requested, he said."

This is hardly surprising, I have a certain amount of sympathy with the UKBA employees who are tasked with dealing with these applications,firstly mistakes will happen,secondly, at one time rules changed very often, as human memory is not infallible mistakes are bound to happen,thirdly yet another case of politicians failing to deal with EFFECTIVELY for many years ,a problem with a situation that had got totally out of hand so much so that it was the tail which was wagging the dog and not the other way around as it should be,in other words politicians looking after their votes first and foremost instead of that which was in the interests of the economic health of the whole country.
I am very happy that the UK is a fair country and is ready to publish details of an enquiry that shows mistakes were made.

Archive Ref:http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/
Current info:http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/
Momodou Posted - 15 Jun 2012 : 14:54:19
UKBA staff 'unfairly rejecting' African visas, report finds
15 June 2012


UK Border Agency staff processing visa applications from Africa are "acting unfairly" and wrongly refusing entry to the UK, an independent report claims.

Chief inspector to the UKBA, John Vine, said many visas were incorrectly rejected after employees "disregarded or misinterpreted" evidence.

Some applicants were being refused for failing to provide information that had not been originally requested, he said.

Read Full Story
toubab1020 Posted - 14 Jun 2012 : 13:13:01
http://kibaaro.com/?p=1312#comment-837

Snippet:
"So It is very important for any one intending to sponsor or marry someone from abroad to seek proper legal advise otherwise the odds againsts you are very high.
Immigration Law is becoming more and more specialist area so people must consider the costs now involve in making applications against the benet of a good legal advice."



quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020

Sab,you realise that immigration to the UK has been abused,we are talking about families in the latest media and political hot topic,definition of "family",unsurprisingly, there seem to be many, a real money spinner for lawyers,here is just one:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/family
So we can be talking about a great many people (children entitled to benefits, disabled entitled to benefits,old people entitled to benefits (state pension) low income earners, job seekers, and probably many more categories.I refer you Sab to my previous thoughts.
Have a great time travelling and enjoy yourself , you never know you might meet snuggles somewhere, he is a gobetrotter



kobo Posted - 14 Jun 2012 : 12:29:11
KIBAARO NEWS WITH EDITOR LAWYER YANKS DARBO;
toubab1020 Posted - 11 Jun 2012 : 16:46:10
Sab,you realise that immigration to the UK has been abused,we are talking about families in the latest media and political hot topic,definition of "family",unsurprisingly, there seem to be many, a real money spinner for lawyers,here is just one:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/family
So we can be talking about a great many people (children entitled to benefits, disabled entitled to benefits,old people entitled to benefits (state pension) low income earners, job seekers, and probably many more categories.I refer you Sab to my previous thoughts.
Have a great time travelling and enjoy yourself , you never know you might meet snuggles somewhere, he is a gobetrotter


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